Comments on: PMW-EX1 vs HVR-FX1 Low Light Comparison http://www.freshdv.com/2007/12/pmw-ex1-vs-hvr-fx1-low-light-comparison.html Serving up fresh, crispy news and views for creators and consumers of digital video Fri, 19 Mar 2010 17:58:28 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.7 hourly 1 By: Steve Speed http://www.freshdv.com/2007/12/pmw-ex1-vs-hvr-fx1-low-light-comparison.html#comment-26805 Steve Speed Sun, 16 Dec 2007 19:04:10 +0000 http://www.freshdv.com/2007/12/pmw-ex1-vs-hvr-fx1-low-light-comparison.html#comment-26805 The initial Euro models had those problems identified by Simon Wyndham. Sony offered a firmware upgrade but that still left the progressive mode with substantially poorer image quality than interlaced material. These new EX1 seem to suffer from the same artefact. Sony's EIS system seems to have an over aggressive noise filter that robs the image of detail in areas of similar color and in darker areas of the image. Most hacks that write online either need a new set of spectacles or if they are too critical they don't get the review cameras any more. I'd be interested in what you find. The initial Euro models had those problems identified by Simon Wyndham. Sony offered a firmware upgrade but that still left the progressive mode with substantially poorer image quality than interlaced material.

These new EX1 seem to suffer from the same artefact. Sony’s EIS system seems to have an over aggressive noise filter that robs the image of detail in areas of similar color and in darker areas of the image.

Most hacks that write online either need a new set of spectacles or if they are too critical they don’t get the review cameras any more.

I’d be interested in what you find.

]]> By: Matthew Jeppsen http://www.freshdv.com/2007/12/pmw-ex1-vs-hvr-fx1-low-light-comparison.html#comment-26564 Matthew Jeppsen Sat, 15 Dec 2007 18:43:50 +0000 http://www.freshdv.com/2007/12/pmw-ex1-vs-hvr-fx1-low-light-comparison.html#comment-26564 Hey Steve, thanks for the comment. I ran across this 300% blowup comparing a V1U's interlaced mode vs. progressive: http://www.simonwyndham.co.uk/Sony%20V1U/blowup.png I'll see if I can find some comparable frame comparisons from the EX1 so we can blow 'em up and have a look. -Matt Jeppsen Hey Steve, thanks for the comment. I ran across this 300% blowup comparing a V1U’s interlaced mode vs. progressive: http://www.simonwyndham.co.uk/Sony%20V1U/blowup.png

I’ll see if I can find some comparable frame comparisons from the EX1 so we can blow ‘em up and have a look.

-Matt Jeppsen

]]> By: Steve Speed http://www.freshdv.com/2007/12/pmw-ex1-vs-hvr-fx1-low-light-comparison.html#comment-26526 Steve Speed Sat, 15 Dec 2007 15:16:55 +0000 http://www.freshdv.com/2007/12/pmw-ex1-vs-hvr-fx1-low-light-comparison.html#comment-26526 Look at the details in the EX1 picture and yu'll that the EX1 suffers from the same "oil-paint" effect that plagued the HVR-V1. As soon as you use gain the detail goes. Look at the yellow strap for areas of sharp detail and clumps of soft detail. It is a very unnatural image. Personally I'm not blown away by the EX1. Look at the details in the EX1 picture and yu’ll that the EX1 suffers from the same “oil-paint” effect that plagued the HVR-V1.

As soon as you use gain the detail goes. Look at the yellow strap for areas of sharp detail and clumps of soft detail. It is a very unnatural image.

Personally I’m not blown away by the EX1.

]]> By: Kendal Miller http://www.freshdv.com/2007/12/pmw-ex1-vs-hvr-fx1-low-light-comparison.html#comment-25953 Kendal Miller Thu, 13 Dec 2007 06:50:15 +0000 http://www.freshdv.com/2007/12/pmw-ex1-vs-hvr-fx1-low-light-comparison.html#comment-25953 Hmmmmm methinks this is very nice...I would definitely like to see more from this camera. Hmmmmm methinks this is very nice…I would definitely like to see more from this camera.

]]> By: andrew_h http://www.freshdv.com/2007/12/pmw-ex1-vs-hvr-fx1-low-light-comparison.html#comment-25892 andrew_h Thu, 13 Dec 2007 01:48:56 +0000 http://www.freshdv.com/2007/12/pmw-ex1-vs-hvr-fx1-low-light-comparison.html#comment-25892 No idea, new product coupled with holiday shipping guarantees out the window, could be bad. But at least I got thru my shoot yesterday, thanks to Adobe On Location sitting in as my half second lag monitor. No idea, new product coupled with holiday shipping guarantees out the window, could be bad.

But at least I got thru my shoot yesterday, thanks to Adobe On Location sitting in as my half second lag monitor.

]]> By: Matthew Jeppsen http://www.freshdv.com/2007/12/pmw-ex1-vs-hvr-fx1-low-light-comparison.html#comment-25885 Matthew Jeppsen Wed, 12 Dec 2007 23:50:16 +0000 http://www.freshdv.com/2007/12/pmw-ex1-vs-hvr-fx1-low-light-comparison.html#comment-25885 I'm sorry to hear that Andrew. Do you have an idea of how long the repair/replacement period will be? -MJ I’m sorry to hear that Andrew. Do you have an idea of how long the repair/replacement period will be?

-MJ

]]> By: andrew_h http://www.freshdv.com/2007/12/pmw-ex1-vs-hvr-fx1-low-light-comparison.html#comment-25882 andrew_h Wed, 12 Dec 2007 23:17:19 +0000 http://www.freshdv.com/2007/12/pmw-ex1-vs-hvr-fx1-low-light-comparison.html#comment-25882 nice article. sadly i had to ship my ex1 back to sony today with a dead lcd and a viewfinder that was blooming like mad. nice article. sadly i had to ship my ex1 back to sony today with a dead lcd and a viewfinder that was blooming like mad.

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